--- title: The $30K/Month Mistake Most Agencies Make (And How to Fix It!) description: Running an agency but feel like you're drowning in tasks, missing structure, or hitting a revenue ceiling? 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[Podcast](https://www.fourevamedia.com/podcast/tag/podcast) Jul 2, 2025, 3:37:09 AM [jamar-jones](https://www.fourevamedia.com/podcast/author/jamar-jones) 2 min read ![](https://www.fourevamedia.com/hs-fs/hubfs/thumbnail%20(1)-1.png?width=1000&name=thumbnail%20(1)-1.png) [mailto:?subject=The%20%2430K%2FMonth%20Mistake%20Most%20Agencies%20Make%20%28And%20How%20to%20Fix%20It%21%29&body=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.fourevamedia.com%2Fpodcast%2Fthe-30k%2Fmonth-mistake-most-agencies-make-and-how-to-fix-it](mailto:?subject=The%20%2430K%2FMonth%20Mistake%20Most%20Agencies%20Make%20%28And%20How%20to%20Fix%20It%21%29&body=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.fourevamedia.com%2Fpodcast%2Fthe-30k%2Fmonth-mistake-most-agencies-make-and-how-to-fix-it) Running an agency but feel like you're drowning in tasks, missing structure, or hitting a revenue ceiling? In this episode, host Jamar Jones sits down with Spencer Cox—founder of an 8-figure agency and systems genius—for a deep dive on operations, hiring, and scaling sustainably. Spencer, also known as the “Notion Jesus,” helps 6- and 7-figure agency owners streamline backend chaos, boost client results, and grow without burning out. If you’re an agency owner, service provider, or freelancer ready to build a real business—not just a hustle—this one’s for you. In this episode, you’ll learn: ✅ The first hires you actually need to scale your agency ✅ Why 30+ meetings a week might be a smart move ✅ How to stop overcomplicating your backend and focus on growth ✅ When to build systems—and when NOT to ✅ The biggest hiring mistake founders make (and how to fix it) ✅ How to price your services like a premium pro ✅ Why resourcefulness beats experience in early-stage hires ✅ The tools Spencer uses to scale 6- and 7-figure businesses Spencer also shares real talk on founder burnout, team communication, and how to create a business that doesn’t fall apart when you get more clients. 🚀 Whether you're making 5K/month or pushing 50K, this episode will challenge how you think about systems, growth, and what it means to build a real, scalable business. 🔔 Don’t forget to LIKE, SUBSCRIBE, and turn on notifications for more expert interviews on business growth, agency building, leadership, and scaling smart!     ## jamar-jones ## Ready to grow your business and brand? 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